Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  They came, they saw, they left...

  by NVR2L8 in

  1. social
  2. family

  during the holiday period one if my wife's brothers had planned a vacation in our area.

  they drove about 6 hours to a condo they leased for a week to celebrate their wedding anniversary with their married son and daughter.

  they called my wife to let her know they were coming to visit us since they were 2 hours away.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  they were stopping by after just to say hello

  Why did they even bother? They can say hello with a phone call.
  
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  Micah - Advocate of Truth (from The Witchtower) ;)

  by processor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  micah advocate of truth.

  reprint from the witchtower, 8/2009.

  therefore you will come to have no one ... in the congregation.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Spiritual food at the proper time!

  The spanking picture needs the caption: "Should the Governing Body be spanked?"

  And the last picture now looks to me like an exJW family enjoying a holiday dinner while the hungry-looking JW is lonely and miserable. The caption should be: '"Not even eating with" your disfellowshipped family, no matter how loving, truth-about-the-truthful, and generous they are.'
  
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  Any luck kicking the bottle?

  by Ignoranceisbliss in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i continue my sllllooooooowwwwwww fade one of the things that i want to do is better myself as a person.

  one of my biggest pitfalls has always been drinking.

  i don't think i am an alcoholic but at the same time i've never been a very good drinker.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I'm not a professional psychologist or counselor... But on the Internet, I like to pretend that I am.

  Just connecting the dots of your comments about losing weight, the kids, drinking, and how you feel on the weekend, I'd suggest setting positive objectives to replace the drinking. I'm not much of a drinker, but I drink even less on Friday night when I have plans for Saturday. And Saturday night I'm less likely to drink much if I have brunch plans for Sunday morning.

  Back in the old JW days, drinking was a way to numb the pain of weekends wasted slaving for the cult. And a way to numb the pain of slaving all week in bethel for the cult.
  
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  urban legends

  by chirac in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear brothers ans sisters.

  i just received this mail in french..(thank you google to have translates it)..this mail is from a still inside brother who encourage to come back.

  do you think its a fact or an other urban legend.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Big deal. President Eisenhower's mother was a Bible Student/JW.

  For a religion that is supposedly reaching every kingdom, why would they get excited about some dub that might or might not have given some litteratrash to Obama? Shouldn't they be trying to reach the Saudi royal family, the leaders and population of so many non-Christian places, and isolated places like North Korea?

  Besides, since WT has released a new Bible, isn't that book "old light"?
  
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  JW.ORG TRAFFIC WORTH

  by @ROOT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i looked up the estimated revenue of jw.org using http://www.siteworthtraffic.com/ and was shocked at the results.

  not only are they saving money on printing psychical books/magazines, but they're also making a tidy sum romtheir "free" website created and maintained by volunteers.

  i spoke with a jw recently who was very proud to tell me just how good their website was and that they provided it free of charge.

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  They could also run ads for JW.org jewelry and other crap.

  Oh, and Kool Aid ads.

  
  

  

  
  
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  What is the point of the picture in this weeks study article ?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't understand the relevance of the first picture in this weeks study article?!?!.

  wt week of december 15-21 "cherish your privilege of working with jehovah".

  can someone post the pic?.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "What is that tower there for? Looks like a typical church tower to me."

  Great observation. Patterson has a steeple with a clock.
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  Stupid comment Witness made about the Exodus film.

  by Trapped in JW land in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was talking with two brothers at the kingdom hall the other day.

  one of them suggested seeing the new exodus movie.

  the other brother says, "i heard it's really violent"!

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "I heard it's really violent"

  All the reason I need to never open the Bible again.
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  What is the point of the picture in this weeks study article ?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't understand the relevance of the first picture in this weeks study article?!?!.

  wt week of december 15-21 "cherish your privilege of working with jehovah".

  can someone post the pic?.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Apog, That is probably the thinking of the current GB. It's the kind of thing that Splane has said before.

  The move to Warwick is a huge change from the thinking of GB 1.0 and even Russell. They recognized the importance of visibility. Anybody visiting NYC would see the WT sign across from Manhattan. Tour boats and tour buses would all point it out as a local landmark. When Patterson was being built, it was supposed to be the future home of the GB. But that didn't happen. After visiting a few times, most of the GB found it too boring, too far from the airport, with none of the excitement of NYC. After all, most of them had already lived in Brooklyn for decades. Shortly before I left, they were still talking about building on their huge DUMBO property. In fact, it was the second largest undeveloped piece of real estate in all NYC. But too much local opposition to more WT buildings. And building in the city is very, very expensive with a lot of legal and labor union hassles.

  GB 2.0 has almost no history of living in the city. None of them are interested in walking right outside the bethel doors and being able to witness to victims on the promenade, like GB 1.0 often did. GB 1.0 saw how badly the NYC congregations needed the help of bethel to have elders (some congs only had bethelite elders, I think) and the ability to get KH properties (bethel had a department that helped to purchase and develop the expensive city properties). I'm sure GB 2.0 just saw the ordinary, usually poor JWs in NYC as less desirable than the somewhat wealthier JWs living outside the city. And of course, GB 2.0 sees all that money to be made by selling that Brooklyn property. Back when I was in bethel, many took pride in the notion that WT was growing and would only buy, never sell property in Broolkyn. When the huge Furman building was sold, most thought that would be a one-time deal since there was so much hassle with the Brooklyn Bridge Park project. Wrong. It's been all sell, sell, sell, because now it's all about cash.

  As far as them looking for safety outside the city, if chaos broke out in NYC, they're still plenty close for "worldly" people to drive up to Warwick and pillage the property. It's not like they've moved to Nebraska.

  After all, it's a cult. So you can't expect what they do to make any sense.
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  What is the point of the picture in this weeks study article ?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't understand the relevance of the first picture in this weeks study article?!?!.

  wt week of december 15-21 "cherish your privilege of working with jehovah".

  can someone post the pic?.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "...taking part in a physical building program, as did Noah and Moses."

  So these Warwick buildings can float or be disassembled and relocated?

  Not only does this multi-year project show that the GB doesn't really believe the end is "soon," it also means that they don't think the great tribulation and attack by gog of magog are real. The GB conveniently located in a remote compound? They'd be easy targets for attack. One missile and "BOOM", no more FDS. If they really believed what they were teaching, the GB were much safer in NYC. They could easily disappear through their tunnel network and disappear into a city of millions of people.

  If fancy new headquarters are so important to "the true Christian congregation," why didn't Jesus build a headquarters, assembly halls, and kingdumb hauls. Jesus was a carpenter! Yet, he never needed a building or get into buying and selling property. Hmmm, that probably would have been a suggestion of Judas... get that cash flowing!
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  priorities

  by drawcad_1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it just me or is the focus on building projects.

  i read through the study for this weekend and all of the focus was on new building construction.

  i was waiting for them to talk about the ministry, and it was in there, but not as the main priority.. i am amazed after visiting an old congregation of mine back in new england just how few (none) of the publishers had helped out on the new headquarters.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Perhaps it's more a priority to get the focus away from things like WT selling about $850,000,000 worth of Brooklyn real estate along with closing and selling dozens of branches around the world.

  So now they need volunteers and donations to build Warwick?

  The more I think about it, the more this looks like a money-making scam for the janitors at the top!